roughly four times the total investment made in r&d, science, education, infrastructure. if we -- we will have assured that we are going to have what i call a slow-growth crisis. that is at least my way of formulating what happens if we do not do anything. please takeover -- this is yours, not mine. >> one of the things i do not claim to be here is an economic expert, although it is from a national security standpoint -- i have felt this way for years that it is not just about the health of our economy. is around the world -- the health of the economy is that generate positive outcomes. and the opposite is true as well -- from the defense standpoint, i think, as senator nunn pointed out, if the debt continues to grow it will just continue to eat at us. when you put in the kind of time bombs that sequestration is, at least that was the extent, it was supposed to be so heinous that congress would never permitted to happen, and yet we are on the verge of it happening. for a force that has been fighting over the past five years -- and is stretched and strapped, at a time when